Wally's gotten so fast, that he just outran the Speed Force itself. 3. Like he can run x times the speed of light, just that he has ran faster than light. One disappear from 1 place and appear at another place exactly at same instant/moment of time. Reviews and Commentaries for Way Out West. E = mc^2 is the equation derived by the twentieth-century German-born physicist, Albert Einstein, in his theory of special relativity, which states that the increased relativistic mass (m) of a body comes from the energy of motion of that body. Tier: At least 8-C. vsbattles.fandom.com. Did he go faster than the ones listed? Despite reservations Wally agreed and the group attacked the Dark Heart, which was defended by the possessed Justice Leaguers and citizens of Gemworld. It's said that superman can travel 4.2 times the speed of light. . 5.6764383e+65 m/s / 299,792,458 m/s = 1.893456e+57, Wally's Top Speed: 1.893456e+57 (1.89 octodecillion times faster than light). This bought them a respite but strained the Speed Force even further, which Barry criticized him for and the two argued about their next move. So tone that down in the future please. vkgy is a visual kei library maintained by overseas fans. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. You know what else is impossible? French soccer great Just Fontaine, whose 1958 record of 13 goals scored during a World Cup still stands, has died. Physics and Science doesn't equate very well in comics, which is why speed data calculation is off between the readers and the writers. For other uses of "The Flash", see The Flash. Actually, both are correct, 'Septo' comes from 'Seven' in Latin, since it means 10 to the minus 3 to the power of seven. Iris was a role model for Wally growing up and one of the . However, his speed has been put to the test in a big way. Tier: At least 8-C. Varies with speed, up to 5-A normally, 4-B with the Infinite Mass Punch. Wally ran away in search of a plan and found Deathstroke's son, Jericho, for help.[9]. A direct statement from writer > indirect statement of reader via calculations. However Booster and friends arrived in time and convinced Wally to clone himself, kill the clone, put the body of the clone amongst the victims, turn himself in and accept responsibility for the massacre. [30], The surviving heroes and villains joined up on Themyscira for a final battle against the forces of the Last 52 Multiverse. The race starts at 00:00. I'll go ahead and provide the scans just to back up what @sirneko is saying so you can see. Mistakenly believing himself responsible for the power surge and under the effects of hypnotic persuasion from Eobard Thawne, Wally also placed a future version of himself amongst the victims. The long-running debate between fans of DC Comics' two most iconic heroes has been reignited with the release of Superman Comic #709. He noted that these are not alternate realities, but the same events repeating on the same world at a different time, with no one remembering the earlier incarnation. Due to his heart condition, Wally wrote a letter to Nightwing about his resignation from the Titans but Donna interrupted him and told him that their kiss was a moment of empathy and they should remain friends for now. It supplies the kinetic energy for the entire multiverse, literally putting reality in motion pushing it forward.Wally has a connection to the Speed Force, likely the purest out of . Advertisement. there is nothing in this case to contradict logic. His speed is to put it bluntly - absurd. Wally is powerful and almost unbeatable unless he's bound by the limits of being in character. You're the one talking about logical things and possible things, yet you persist in saying that Flash couldn't have gone FTL in this feat because you choose to believe one part of the narration and think the other part is wrong. So putting the absolute strongest Sonic and the absolute strongest Flash seems at least to me to be the most appropriate He is the first Kid Flash and the third to ever take the name Flash after Jay Garrick and Barry Allen. During his time in Sanctuary, Wally tried getting over his mental health issues. But when your argument degenerates into petty insults in lieu of actual arguments it's time to call it a day. You don't answer this. some Abstracts are beyond time thus i say they don't need waste time in thinking or movement of electric impulses in body. The classic version of Superman is capable of incredible feats such as super-speed, flight, strength and invulnerability, and if one . I'm hurt. At least 2-C, possibly Low 1-C with Environmental Destruction Name . 2-C Environmental Destruction . Wally West/Original Female Character(s) Bruce Wayne; Wally West; J'onn J'onzz; John Stewart (DCU) Shayera Hol; This is when Deathstroke made Wally an offer: if Wally uses his powers to go back in time and change the past so Deathstroke's son doesn't die, Slade will quit being Deathstroke. Wally West, named after his grandfather, is the only son of Rudy and Mary West. . In this issue, Superman is pitted against The Flash in a race to see who can run faster: the Man of Steel or the Scarlet Speedster? While Wally was lost in the speed force, a Quantum Lifeform altered the timeline, resulting in a new, altered existence that seemingly forgot Wally. As they closed in, Wally used Johnny Quick's Speed Formula to briefly stop time, bringing them to a stop outside the Flash Museum. Below is the image: JLA (1997) #89. Velocity = 5.6764383e+65 m/s. Wonder Woman achieved sufficient power to challenge the Darkest Knight directly,[32] and Superboy-Prime sacrificed himself to destroy some of the Last 52 worlds, which gave the people of the multiverse a fighting chance. [44] They teamed up with Amethyst and Justice League Dark, who told them that Eclipso was heading to the Black Heart, a gateway to the core of Gemworld. teleport definition - to be transported across space and distance instantly and Instant means no time at all. Welcome to comics, dude. He has also been seen single-handedly reconstructing several ruined buildings and moving heavy beams and girders into place, which typically weigh around 400 lbs a piece. You're the one questioning the claim, provide the proof. You're right, writers don't write with a calculator in hand to make sure everything syncs up. He was trapped in the Speed Force for years, with the world temporarily forgetting his existence until his metaphorical "rebirth". Speed Force The Speed Force is an extra-dimensional energy field that acts as a separation from the multiverse proper and the Sphere of the Gods and acts as a sort of "valhalla" or "heaven" for speedsters. Million > quintillion ? The Feat: In rapid succession he jumped into Max Mercury, Kid Flash, Liberty Belle and even Barry himself in the past. 5) as i said in nuke event speed statement is right and distance time data is wrong BECAUSE A direct statement from writer > indirect statement of reader via calculations. and what is septal second? no movement = no speed = no time travel. [18], Wally, imbued with Dr. Manhattan's powers, on the Mobius Chair, Wally would also reaffirm his love for Linda Park after fighting alongside a speedster version of her named Lightspeed. Wally resolved to tell Iris of his existence. Wally references mass and then gives a clear statement for the kind of mass he is referring to. This template will automatically categorize articles that include it into the "Flash Family members" category. You can't have it both ways -- as you're fond of saying, it's logically impossible for Wally to run 500,000 people 35 miles away while moving less than lightspeed before the nuke would kill them all. Nick Speed) Download: 320 kbps - Wayshare. Wally West, better known as The Flash is a member of the Justice League and the former sidekick and successor of Barry Allen. He's known to zip around at an unbelievable speed and witness moments that the average . [38] He continued to bounce around the timeline and Omniverse, possessing other speedsters at the lowest points in their lives. for example Silver age sup was million times FTL and could time travel. Wally West appears in 2926 issues. While fighting Amazo Wally stated that with Speed Force powers Amazo would kill the entire League before they knew what happened so he took his powers away from Amazo and Amazo calculated Wally West as the biggest threat in Justice League. [54], Mister Terrific used the technology which he and Barry had developed to communicate with Wally during his body-hopping adventure to track Barry's unique resonance signature in the Speed Force, and was able narrow his possible location to three alternate realities. $1,300,000. Gambler's impulses need time for any and every action. Nothing about it is PIS, either. At least, it's his destiny on his Earth. Not only flash never did it but also its impossible. Start an offer. 0. This is an honest to goodness question. In season four, episode five of TV's Smallville, a young Clark Kent curiously encounters the future Impulse before ever crossing paths with Barry Allen or Wally West . What some of Wally's best speed feats? Follow 324. With season 4 of The Flash set to premiere on Tuesday, I thought it was about time we went through DC's comic history to analyze the top speed of the true "F. March 33 (feat. you are flash fanboy and are overhyping his feats. that radio feat is an unquantifable feat. While on Earth he usually keeps it down to like 700-800 mph at max, because of safety, but through the use of the speed force, he can achieve many times the speed of light. [8], Deathstroke eventually convinced Kid Flash to help him, while absorbing his Speed Force powers in secret. I think you can't But even if you do still it would be a PIS as being above omnipotence as i explained in previous point. Justice League Vol 2 #50(July, 2016). Omnipotents could also time travel, just as Wally did, and beat instant teleportation to the spot. How much time do you think it takes to save 500,000 people from the AoE of a nuke? 2) well that makes no sense. A guy in a red jumpsuit with a cowl running at superspeeds and being powered by an infinite energy source that governs time and movement. [12], Upon his return to Central City, Wally helped his cousin and uncle fight the Top, but was still reluctant to inform his aunt of his existence. The remaining speedsters split into two teams to rescue both Barry and Jay and the kids. You think, "The writer got the distance and time wrong, he was just using incorrect data so it doesn't count!" - Knocks around Johnny Quick early in his career (also shown above). Wally was able to eventually able to break free from the restraints and pin down Slade. These covers, by Feld stein and Wally Wood, are showcases for drawings of dinosaurs, rocket ships, and gravity-defying guys and 6ozs.Weird Science, #12; Weird Fantasy, #17 Although comic books in general were disdained by par ents and educators, crime comics had the worst reputa tion of all. Come back when your post limit is up. Always happy to help people see his real true power lol. The victims of the massacre were Arsenal, Blue Jay, Hot Spot, Commander Steel, Red Devil, Lagoon Boy, Gunfire, Gnarrk, Protector, Nemesis, Tattooed Man, Solstice and Poison Ivy. While trapped in the Speed Force, Wally sensed a presence, who he realized was a being from outside the universe. He was born after Francine had separated with Joe, having left . $465,000 Last Sold Price. After Barry was offered a place on Justice Incarnate in order to explore the new multiverse and map it, Wally was chosen once again to be the main Flash. Free shipping for many products! You are listening to the song Nonstop - m Cht Sang & Phiu by DJ TngV. Wally deduced that Eclipso planned to use Gemworld as a gigantic antenna to amplify his psychic powers, and was proven right when Eclipso was able to possess the other heroes.[45]. Wally has speed stole objects and people. Wally went on to witness Barry Allen sacrifice himself to save the Multiverse. You put him in a battle with damn near anyone with any win condition and he's going to stomp. The Spectre arrived to collect the glaive and told Wally that God had personally chosen him to fight Eclipso, and had been shielding him from Eclipso's powers. I've never read anything that specified how many times the speed of light. Wally approached them and after an awkward moment he was embraced by his old friend and fellow founding member Donna Troy. let me explain. Only possibility is that teleporter wasted time in thinking. Labs who attempt to help her condition, Wally decided to return to Keystone City, where Dick Grayson paid for his apartment. Therefore, if Flash is moving just under the speed of light (96.8% c or290,199,099m/s) and obtained mass equal to that of a white dwarf star (between 0.6 and 1.4 solar masses averaged as 1 solar mass or 1.99e+30 kg), we can determine just how many Joules of energy they exerted in kinetic energy and relativistic kinetic energy respectively. Wally West appears in 2926 issues. He even specifically says he's travelling across the 4th dimension (time). But Flash uses that one relative second to gain speed and time travel. Not everyone who can go FTL can time travel, that's a fallacy. But, anyone who can time travel can arrive at a place at a specific point in time faster than a teleporter relative to that teleporter's timeline, yes. Eobard Thawne gets super speed, develops the ability to travel through time, and discovers that in the future, he becomes the Reverse Flash. Forum Posts. He told Barry he changed his mind about retiring and Ollie apologized to Wally over his own actions. I went to a good bit of effort on that post and here you come, dismissing my work on a sheer technicality. During the Human Race, Wally outraced instantaneous teleportation from the Cosmic Gamblers -- that could be seen as a pseuod time travel feat, though, as he raced across the fourth dimension to do it (The fourth dimension is time). When the Sox scored 2 runs in the top of the tenth, Boston manager John McNamara chose to have Buckner take the field in the bottom of the inning instead of . Answer me that. Wally later found his cousin and comforted him, offering advice and words of wisdom. Well, Wally beat teleportation across the universe with his speed,is faster than Barry who outran death. Wally suddenly found himself in his own body on the grounds of Sanctuary, surrounded by bodies.[40]. Why are you comparing Batman to the Gambler? In the smaller version I provided above, you'll notice that New 52 Wally's lightning is red, Barry's is yellow, and the original Wally West's lightning is white. Despite Superman's impressive speed feats and recent power developments, fans have continued to debate whether he is faster than the Flash or not. Wally expected to fade into the Force again but suddenly found himself with the Flash Family and their loved ones, who had taken refuge in the Speed Force. Again, this is blatant hypocrisy). Irey had already safely absorbed the surge of Speed Force energy and would release it over the next few minutes, giving her and Wally time to talk. 0 second. Flash never outraced a teleporter who has absolute 0 reaction time. And i am right. barry an wally i like but john fox he is a beast i saw him ran backwards around the world an bart could not catch him an the guy not even turn around once plus he is the only flash to reach the 65 century, I love Wally and stopped reading the Flash series until they bring him back. [22], Using his new godlike powers, Wally planned to forge the disparate fragments of reality into a single coherent timeline while Fuginaut guarded against danger from the Dark Multiverse. This was the arrival of the Fraction, an interdimensional empire that used the Speed Force to plunder various worlds. The Scarlet Speedster. Bathroom: Wally woke up bright and early to shoot hoops with Robin. The thing is, we KNOW that it's incorrect data because Wally had been going way faster than lightspeed for years before Trial By Fire happened. As both Kid Flash and The Flash, Wally's main superpower is superhuman speed that originates from the metaphysical "Speed Force." In fact, it was during Wally's tenure as The Flash that the concept of the Speed Force was introduced. The glaive sent out waves of anger and hate that made the people of Central City hostile and drew an army of supervillains to it. "Physics 101. @dredeuced: 1) STILL that distance is just speculation. I know he outran the Black Racer and entropy (?) Wally is MFTL, while Silver Sufrer has better direct feats on Travel Speed, Wally is still vastly faster considering that speed comes from how fast you think more than move and Wally has Surfer . To cover 150,000,000 kilometers, it would take light 500 seconds. In the end, a no-holds-barred race would decide who emerged victorious. Unless you think the narrator lied and hundreds of thousands of people died, Flash HAD to be going FTL. . This is true. This character is or was primarily a member of the younger superhero team known as the Teen Titans, in any of its various incarnations. [21], Now omniscient, Wally surveyed the timeline and noticed reality change before his eyes as the Justice Society and Legion of Super-Heroes, once forgotten, suddenly reappeared in the timeline. Ft. 1831 Kristina Ln, Wenatchee, WA 98801. One day, while visiting Iris at her friend Barry Allen's CSI lab at the Central City Police Department, Wally was struck by a bolt of lightning and doused in chemicals just like the Flash was, which infused Wally with the power of a mysterious energy force called the Speed Force like his hero. The people of earth lended him their speed so he could beat the Krakkl back to earth and save the planet. 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