They point you to your own experiences and opinions, not to Scripture, as your authority for what you think, believe, and do. She admits it. You may not agree with all of these points, but there is enough here to indicate that you should be very wary of getting involved with Priscilla Shirer studies. You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. I havent done One in a Million yet) this is supposition on your part. Ohmygoodness!!!! All of these people are proponents of the false and anti-biblical Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) doctrine, and the Jakeses are also modalists. Its a complete waste of time. One of them went up to him and told him. Heres why: 1. (Yikes!). By Wade Martin Hughes, Sr. Kyfingers@aol.com Wolters begins with the shrewd observation that the four authors understand what moving beyond the Bible to theology means in at least four overlapping but distinguishable ways: (1) bringing the authority of Scripture to bear on issues that Scripture itself does not directly address (e.g., in contemporary bioethics); (2) dealing with ethically . It doesnt. Scripture: My bible teaches those roles but thank you. Id also like to recommend my article thats linked at the very top of this page: Answering the Opposition. Mark 7:31-37 This article really turned me off on her. Unfortunately, they depend on LifeWay to deliver sound material. There are two crucial reasons for this. It is a sad irony that Priscilla Shirer opted to name her ministry Going Beyond, because this is exactly what she is choosing to do right now. #1- Thank you so much for letting me know that link was broken. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. Ive heard her recommend Christian women to go to a quiet place to pray. Based on Saikowoods earlier post, you are not even familiar with the fact that Dr. Tony Evans is her father. Going Beyond Obedience. Ive read her own account explaining this. B. #3 Priscilla teaches to listen for Gods voice. Priscilla Shirer is a wife and mom of three boys hailing from the Dallas area. Youve come to the correct conclusion about Priscillas teaching, and the Holy Spirit does direct genuine believers away from false teaching (John 10:5), but I want all of my readers who happen across this comment to please make sure (as Im sure Lynette did) you ALWAYS base your beliefs on what Scripture says, not on feelings and impressions. Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. These women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. They start, not with a biblical truth but with a story or life experience, and then they build doctrine and beliefs out of that experience. Isaiah 58:12. Scripture doesnt specify that only preaching from a pulpit on Sunday morning as a pastor would or leading a church qualifies as preaching to or teaching men, but, yes, they have both done the former and neither has indicated repentance over it or any plans to stop doing so. (And if you need any help getting started, Ive got some resources that will help you under the Bible Studies tab at the top of this page.) It was an immediate NO after I listened to less than 1 minute of her reference about Oprah. Lord, thank You that You are the Good Shepherd and You speak and we hear Your voice. Personal experiences can be evidence of the truth of rightly handled and understood Scripture, but not vice versa. This is a promotional clip not a scriptural teaching. You do not want to get rid of fear entirely. Who then do you believe has not sinned and is qualified to teach Gods Word? Priscilla Shirer: Living Your Life For Christ (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (February 18, 2021) Priscilla speaks at Christine Caines Propel Womens Conference. on that if youre interested. The sweet missionary who taught us wide-eyed teenagers has since passed into Heaven. True, and there are many problems with Beth Moore as well. Also, if you had read the paragraph at the very top of this article and clicked on please click here and read this article first, your initial question in this comment (about sin) would have been answered. Maybe references other than S. Michael Houdmann (I think Michael does a very nice job on his website but he and his wife started GotQuestions.org after he claims to have received a vision from God to help others and by your own admission, visions and feelings are not Godly direction.) There are some instances in which it is biblically permissible for a man to be in the room while a woman is teaching the Bible, but if the men you saw were there for biblical instruction from a woman, they were violating Scripture (see #1 & 2 here https://michellelesleybooks.com/2015/12/18/rock-your-role-faqs/). Michelle, Hi Lisa- I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help answer your questions and give you a biblical understanding of womens roles in the church. The MEGA Live Event July 23rd, 2021 Tulips & Honey. Pastor Chris Rosebrough explains why Priscillas twisting of John 10 to mean that we can hear God speak to us is unbiblical. ), placing herself into scripture and thereby improperly luring women to God through personal experiences of Jesus instead of purely reading the Word of God. in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. My wife is grateful because of the resources, and because of what she said is best described as like mindedness,(She is sitting beside me by the way!) Im pretty sure some of our ladies are going to ask me where the evidence is that she was purposely teaching scripture to men. What Ive given you here are not my personal views. My personal views dont matter, and neither do yours. Heres more info. Its not like they bend over backwards to exclude men and cant help it if men stay, short of being bodily removed. The salvation of unreached people throughout history. Well, that is why the rubber band was made, to be stretched. Our Ladies Bible Study started a new season on January 5 with Priscilla Shires Armor of God. We shouldnt believe just whatever we see on the internet. The youtube video you offer here in your post is not available and Id kind of like to see what you were talking about. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? Romans 16:17-18 tells us were to mark false teachers and avoid them. When this is done, I will go to the king, even though it is against the law. Click on link: #FerventFridays - Week 1 - Your Passion. (Also, their main genre is apologetics, not discernment.) You are spot on. I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, but in my mind, if there is a WOMENS Conference, and books written for women, and Bible Studies written for women, all of them are geared to women, they cant really help men being in attendance of their own perogative, but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. 1 Corinthians 4:6 says: 2 Kings 5:1-15. Hope this helps, and thanks for the comment :0). For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Often, when readers express their disagreement, they do so in a very vicious and attacking way, so I really appreciate it when someone politely expresses herself. If it were, Paul, Jude, Peter, and even Jesus would be guilty of that sin. What does the Bible say about discerning between true and false doctrine? ), partnering with false teachers (thank you for noting this! I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. What Priscilla and so many others do is pretty much the opposite of a parable. Another important point on this subject: Can you think of a Scripture that says pastors can give people permission, guidance, or authority to sin by disobeying Gods word? I know they were long and torturous~ especially since youve obviously answered the same questions over and over to others. read more, Scripture: And this faith is . They needed to be reminded of who the true Christ of Scripture was. Which is why it grieves me to have to answer that question with: Her theology. Unfortunately, there are serious red flags about some of the things Priscilla does and teaches that Christian women who follow her, or are considering following her, need to be made aware of. ), The Treasure You Already Are | Priscilla Shirer | [at Joyce Meyers] Love Life Womens Conference 2013, Priscilla Shirer Talks Women and the Church, Moving From the Pew to the Pavement and Why Christine Caine Is at the Top of Her List at the Christian Post, Priscilla Shirer recommends Joyce Meyer, Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, etc., Bible studies on her blog at Going Beyond, Priscilla Shirer speaks at Joyce Meyers womens conference alongside false teachers Joyce Meyer, Lisa Harper, and Sarah Jakes Roberts (T.D. Untold millions of Christians over the last two thousand years have studied Gods word, grown close to Him, matured in their faith, and walked faithfully with Him throughout their lives. Can you explain ? Id be delighted to hear back from you, Elizabeth. Theres plenty of video evidence of it and witnesses who could testify to it. Thank you so much for your consideration, Why do you think I do not? Genesis 24:15-20, Denomination: So, to "not go beyond what is written" means to focus on Jesus and His Word above all else. Jeremiah 24:7. Far too often we just "go through the motions" in life but Jesus wants much more than this for our lives. It is Gods plan for every Christianto grow to spiritual maturity and intimacy with Him. 4. I am curious about this comment, I realize this post is old so I dont know if it will be read however, based on the above article and your statements in your article referenced at the top this man who is talking about reading from your blog and learning from you is sinning by being under your teaching. THE CALL? Also, Lisa is doing the Women of Joy tour with Christine Caine, Lysa TerKeurst, Ann Voskamp, Lauren Daigle, etc. if there is a WOMENS Conference, and books written for women, and Bible Studies written for women, all of them are geared to women, they cant really help men being in attendance of their own perogative, If youre not familiar with the false teachers cited below, click the Popular False Teachers and Unbiblical Trends tab in the blue menu bar at the top of this page. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. This is not a Church. As Christians, the Bible is our authority, so its what the Bible says that matters, and thats what I point women to. I can tell that just from your comment. If a big guy writes against a LifeWay person, he might not get anymore invitations. In the videos Ive viewed, there are only women involved (with the exception of the camera guys and the lighting guys.) 3. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. However, from time to time, I get people who comment or send e-mails pretending to genuinely want help just so they can get their comments published and who then proceed to argue and twist Scripture in subsequent comments. and Serita Jakes (see below). Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list. I felt the Lord provided it at the very time I needed it. Having just heard what efforts even St. Paul had to make to run in the Christian race, and how terribly their fathers in the wilderness had failed to meet the requirements of God, they might be inclined to throw up every effort in despair. 15 Neither do we boast beyond our limits in the labors of others. The last verse was a warning; this is an encouragement. I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. When the Bible says not to do something and you do it anyway, thats a sin. I think you are judging and do not agree with you. Or and be .. I run into you everywhere man YouTube, Twitter, and now here lol. 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own helpful in understanding biblically whether or not someone is a false teacher. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer - The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-"pastored" by a woman) Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018 Like you, I also dont understand why believers behave the way they do- taking to task those who stand firmly upon the truth of Gods word instead of rebuking and rejecting false teachers such as Priscilla Shirer, when this is so clearly what Scripture says to do. read more, Scripture: Accused is a very loaded, and in this case, inaccurate term. Olga Souders As I mentioned in my comment, I was here with my wife, completely of my own volition, in no way did Michelle do anything unbiblical. Yes, all of this is important, NO it is not vital. And it cometh to pass, when all the kings who are beyond the Jordan, in the hill-country, and in the low-country, and in every haven of the great sea, over-against Lebanon, the Hittite, and the Amorite, the Canaanite, the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite, hear --. I think I dont think I feel If youre a Christian, what you think, feel, believe, say, and do is supposed to be governed by Scripture. Throughout One of two things happens: either Im ignored altogether, or one of her underlings gets back in touch with me to defend her. Now to Him who, in exercise of His power that is at work within us, is able to do infinitely beyond all our highest prayers or thoughts-- World English Bible Now to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, Young's Literal Translation Watch videos of Shirer speaking, listen to her sermons, read her books, and compare them all with what Scripture says. I attended a conference with Beth Moore, whom I know you have accused also of teaching and preaching to men, and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. Silly me! The problem at the Colossian church (the reason Paul wrote this epistle to them) was that false doctrine was starting to creep in. Matthew 28:1-20, Denomination: In a day and age where any type of hope is needed, especially to the unchurched, I would listen to either Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer any day of the week over the news. Is there some connection between this article on Priscilla Shirer and Israel that Im missing? We only get to have the opinions of Christ as stated in the Bible. I have no doubt that others have confronted her about these things. With continuous prayer, we have decided to proceed with her study but with open eyes to the objections you brought up. The Mailbag: Is It OK for Christian Women to Wear Bikinis? Examples: when we Before you answer No too quickly, consider that we cannot live without fear. There are two ways in which living in Christ helps us live beyond our fears: knowing that He is completely trustworthy, and doing as He calls us to do. Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective. She is a false teacher, not because I say so, but because when you compare her teachings and behavior to Scripture, you will find them consistently in conflict with Scripture. 5:7 ). I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, Maybe God wants to stretch you beyond here! I think the following articles will be helpful in answering your question: You might also want to take a look at the other articles in my Rock Your Role series. Did anything frighten you this morning? I am gonna pray for you. Otherwise, it appears this is a form of gossip. Though the Bible allowed provisions for indentured servitude, which was a humane alternative to such harsh punishments for failure to pay one's debts, such as d These are sources Im familiar with and consider doctrinally sound, but if someone digs up an article one of them wrote from ten years ago that says something biblically askew, I obviously do not endorse that.) I KNOW that you probably dont have the proclivity to clarify your position (youve already stated that you wouldnt/ couldnt reply to questions that are long. You must be afraid of some things, or else you will be in trouble. Just got home form a conference defending the faith. Then why did you ask me any questions? He said he met with the teachers of the studies and told them to go over and compare everything biblically and under his guidance to finish out the study and after that thereally will be no more Priscilla Shirer in our church. Love Your Life 2018 (March 20, 2019) with Victoria Osteen and Terri Savelle Foy, Know Your God | Joyce Meyer and Priscilla Shirer (In this clip, Priscilla also gushes over Henry Blackaby who mishandles Scripture and teaches a form of mysticism. We have many of these moments through out our physical lives. I also dislike how she makes a career of telling women not to have careers. If he had, he would have been advocating one of four principles, which are inconsistent with the rest . Sometimes the Bible can be difficult because it steps on our toes, but I promise, I will always point you Scripture, not to stories, fluff, false doctrine, or your own opinions, feelings, and experiences. Matthew 18 does not apply to public false teaching. #4b- This is a promotional clip not a scriptural teaching. No, this is a promotional clip in which Priscilla not only makes several incorrect biblical assertions, she uses those incorrect assertions as the foundation of this Bible study she has written. The law in this case, being Scripture. Dear Michelle~ Thank you for taking the time to answer all my questions! If that is you, let me save you the time and effort of writing another comment. My article, Jill in the Pulpit examines 1 Timothy 2:11-12 (the clearest and most concise passage addressing this topic) in context and explains it (in what I hope is a clear and understandable way- if not, please feel free to let me know if you have any questions). Priscillas friendliness and genuine care for Christian women seem to shine throughevery word she speaks and writes. You should bring these points about Shirer up to your pastor if her studies are being pushed in your church. Assembly Of God. Romans 8:24 For we MAIN TEXT: MATTHEW 14:15 Are they guiding and leading a flock ( a church )? TRUTH AND LOVE Michelle Thank you for your work in the area of discernment. Do you send women to your articles as a response? but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. If youre in need of suggestions of doctrinally sound blogs for women, go to the top of this page and click on Recommended Bible Teachers. Ive got two lists of 10 up there, and another one coming in the near future. http://lisaharper.net/calendarevents/. In our modern Did you mean youre unsure whether or not she preaches to men? I have attempted plenty of times to contact people like Priscilla Shirer. She is the New York Times Best Selling author of more than two dozen books and has had featured roles in movies like War Room (2015), I Can Only Imagine (2018) and Overcomer (2019). Scroll up to the top of the page and click on the Recommended Bible Teachers tab. I shared this post on Facebook the same day my new pastor friend requested me. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective.. Thats good, but that doesnt change the fact that neither Beth nor Priscilla turn down speaking events that are open to both men and women. I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. 4. 2And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Let's find out as we begin this study in discernment, Choose What Is Right. Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. All comments are handled manually, and I do not publish comments which promote false doctrine. You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings. I do not endorse any of these sites in so far as any of them might deviate from Scripture or conflict with my beliefs as outlined in the Welcome or Statement of Faith tabs at the top of this page. read more, Scripture: Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; No mention of sitting in silence or listening here nor in any of the other passages in which the Bible teaches about prayer. The proper method of teaching Scripture is exegesis. Our ladies Bible study is just about to start a Priscilla Shirer study and I was doing some research on Priscilla and found your blog (whew! Maybe a good example of Priscilla using eisegesis to teach scripture? -Opened new I totally disagree with you on this. What is a defining moment? My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ.. But read her He Speaks to Me Bible study for yourself if you want to assess. If you dont sync with their teaching, dont follow them. None. Christians dont get to have our own personal opinions. John 14:1-4, Luke 10:18-20, 1 Corinthians 15:19. Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. These believers from different denominations Priscilla references who rattled her theological box may have been part of Priscillas initial exposure to false Word of Faith teaching and false teachers such as the aforementioned Meyer, Caine, and Osteens. I guess I have to do some research on those folks. Im surprised to hear thats her position. I wont be publishing comments or answering emails that are answered by this article. Also, if you will read the article hyperlinked at the very top of this article, right underneath the title, where it says, If youre considering commenting it will answer your objections- with Scripture. It will help you better understand biblical discernment and the fact that Jesus, Paul, John, Jude and others were pretty negative when it came to false teachers, too! Baptist. There is no way to be saved by putting your faith in a false christ. You are teaching me and I didnt even realize it! Be a Christian Who Cares God has not instructed women to preach to or instruct men. Or and be .. Wow, I found Ms. Shirers book Fervent very helpful and uplifting. (I remember when I was a missionary to New Guinea back in the 80s, the missionaries were teaching us how to reach the unsaved New Guinea nationals by telling simple Bible stories, and stories of how our lives were changed by Jesus. Going Beyond Ministries is focused on the expository teaching of the Word of God. Scripture: 2 Kings 5:1-15 Denomination: Baptist Going Beyond What Is Expected? This is how people learn and grow in their faith. Heres why. 3. Weve got to act on what the Bible says, not our own opinions. #2- There are a number of resources on false teachers under the Popular False Teachers tab at the top of this page. :0). Then you won't arrogantly place one of us in opposition to the other. Reblogged this on Eternally Secured and commented: Id be interested in hearing what Tony Evans says about his daughters doctrine. In keeping with the spirit of Titus 3:10-11, this is your second warning (the first is in the Welcome tab, which youve obviously already read) I will not engage in debate about biblical truth and I will not publish comments or respond to e-mails/messages attempting to engage me in debate. Verse Concepts. On October 16, 2016, Priscilla and her husband, children, and mother were in attendance at T.D. Until that time, however, it saddens me to have to recommend that Christian women not follow Priscilla Shirer or any materials or activities from Going Beyond Ministries for the following reasons: Priscilla unrepentantly preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12-14(as well as other passages of Scripture that do not allow this). Iam finding that more and moreChristians have to be told this. I am curious, have you confronted Priscilla Shirer of this sin. For example, the Bible clearly says that women are not to preach to or teach men in the church (2 Timothy 2:12). I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. 7,400,364 journeys have been made to this site. What we believe about that is irrelevant. In addition, Beth Moore violates other Scriptures including the ones prohibiting the teaching of false doctrine and yoking ourselves together with those who do. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? read more, Scripture: Do you have other references to their false teaching? A NIGHTMARE ON DESERT STREET! Exegesis is taking a passage of Scripture in context, and leading out of it- teaching what the passage means. You decide. She begins most lessons with a story or personal experience, uses these stories to formulate her own spiritual principles, and then adds in a smattering of Bible verses (often out of context) to support her ideas. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-pastored by a woman), Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018, Special Guest Priscilla Shirer (October 11, 2015) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at The Refuge Church (co-pastored by a woman), What Are You Looking At | Priscilla Shirer | Hillsong East Coast (October 4, 2020) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon for Hillsong East Coast, Women Teachers? 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