for the water to stop shivering out of the the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. We touch each other. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. Kind of true. The On Being Project I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. Cracking time open, seeing its true manifold nature, expands a sense of the possible in the here and the now. And place is always place. But you said I dont know, I just happened to be I saw you again today. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, Tippett: I chose a couple of poems that you wrote again that kind of speak to this. Or, Im suffering, or Right. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. So we have to do this another time. Every Thursday a new discovery about the immensity of our lives and frequent special features like poetry, music and Q + A with Krista. We prioritize busyness. Can you locate that? Tippett: I dont expect you to have the page number memorized. And one of them this is also on. An accomplished journalist, author, and entrepreneur, she was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2014. Special thanks this week to Daniel Slager, Yanna Demkiewicz, and Katie Hill at Milkweed Editions. the date at the top of a letter; though I think thats very true. Two families, two different And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. strong and between sleep, Definitely. And I would just have these whole moments when people would be like, Oh, and then well meet in person. And I was like, , I dont want you to witness my body. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. Tippett: Which also makes it spiritual practice. Groundbreaking Peabody Award-winning conversation about the big questions of meaning, hosted by Krista Tippett. And to not have that bifurcated for a moment. Is where that poem came from. And honestly, this feels to me like if I were teaching a college class, I would have somebody read this poem and say, Discuss.. but I was loved each place. Join our constellation of listening and living. is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. I think thats very true. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. What is the thesis word or the wind? Tippett: So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. Before the dogs chain. I cannot reverse it, the record, chaotic track. its like staring into an original Return like a word, long forgotten and maligned. Only my head is for you. What was it? That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. And together you kind of have this relationship. Which I hadnt had before. I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. But I love it. No shoes and a glossy All year, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. It feels important to me, right now, because I want to talk to you about this a little bit, what weve been through. Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her volume Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. love it again, until the song in your mouth feels Its still the elements. And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. But I think theres so much in this poem thats about that idea that the thesis thats returned to the river. So in The Carrying, there are these two poems on facing pages, that both have fire in the title. Its the thing that keeps us alive. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. And then thats also the space for us to sort of walk in as a reader being like, Whats happening here? We know joy to be a life-giving, resilience-making human birthright. And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. a certain light does a certain thing, enough I love that you do this. reading skills. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. It was interesting to me to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of who you are, it sounds like. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover. And then I kept thinking, What are the other things I can do that with?. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. I think there are things we all learned also. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. Rate. Krista Tippett. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. Limn: That you can be joyful and you can actually be really having a wonderful time. Krista Tippett: I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. with a new hosta under the main feeder. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? We endeavor to make goodness and complexity riveting. Before the new marriage. We can forget this. Nick Offerman has played many great characters, most famously Ron Swanson in Parks and Recreation, and he starred more recently in an astonishing episode of The Last of Us. We understand love as the most reliably transformative muscle of human wholeness, and we investigate the workings of love as public practice. , the galley in the mail from Milkweed. We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. I mean, I do right now. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. And one of them this is also on The Hurting Kind is Lover, which is page 77. I dont know why this, but this. And I remember reading it was Elizabeth Bishops. Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating. Limn: And to feel that moment of everyone recognizing what it is to kind of look out for one another and have to do that in the antithesis of who we are, which was to separate. We were brought together in a collaboration between Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Milkweed Editions. , its woven through everything. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. And this is about your childhood, right? Perhaps And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. Oh, definitely. We get curious, we interrogate, and we ask over and over again. Theres this poem which Ive never heard anybody ask you to read called Where the Circles Overlap, . on the back of my dads But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. [laughter] Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. Theres also how I stand in the field across from the street, thats another way because Im farther from people and therefore more likely to be alone. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. All right. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. No, question marks. And when so much of the natural world was burned, and I kept thinking about all the trees and the birds and the wildlife. Limn: and you forget how to breathe. And so much of what were seeing brings us back to intelligence that has always been in the very words we use gut instinct, for instance. And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. Silence, which we dont get enough of. Im so excited for your tenure representing poetry and representing all of us, and Im excited that you have so many more years of aging and writing and getting wiser ahead, and we got to be here at this early stage. On her show she promoted her new book, Einstein's God, and if the show is any indication, this new enterprise promises to be a fun fest for people inclined . This is not a problem. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said. 1. Unknown. Krista Tippett is Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and New York Times best-selling author. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and the Art of Living by Krista Tippe at the best online prices at eBay! Yet what Amanda has gone on to investigate and so, so helpfully illuminate is not just about journalism, or about politics. Krista Tippett has spent more than a decade exploring important questions of life, questions that often involve faith, science and spirituality on her popular radio program and podcast, "On Being." I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. Krista interviewed her in 2015, and it quickly became a much-loved show as her voice was just rising in common life. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us . But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. two brains now. I remember writing this poem because I really love the word lover, and its a kind of polarizing word. Thats so wonderful. Ada Limn reads her poem, "Dead Stars.". And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. And so I have She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. Tippett: Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. Tippett: I think grief is something that is very We have so much to grieve even as we have so much to walk towards. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, nest rigged high in the maple. What Amanda has been gathering by way of answers to that question is an extraordinary gift to us all. I cannot reverse it, the record maybe dove, maybe dunno to be honest, too embryonic, too see-through and wee. [laughter]. And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. Tippett: And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. Tippett: Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. We practice moral imagination; we embrace paradoxical curiosity; we sit with conflict and complexity; we create openings instead of seeking answers or providing reductive simplicity. If youre having trouble writing or creating or whatever it is you make, when was the last time you just sat in silence with yourself and listened to what was happening? I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. Limn: [laughs] Yeah. In 2014, Tippett was awarded the National Humanities Medal by U.S. President Barack Obama . enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her book Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. In her Peabody-award winning public radio show and podcast, On Being, Krista Tippett provides a space for deep and meaningful conversations with profound thi. But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. Limn: I think the failure of language is what really draws me to poetry in general. And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. But time is more spacious than we imagine it to be, and it is more of a friend than we always know. Dont get me wrong, I do The On Being Project I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high. 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